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ECNR Information => Announcements => Topic started by: Enigma on August 02, 2013, 04:14:20 am
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I think the title says it all. What has happened here? Our once flourishing, loving community has dwindled down drastically in numbers. It would appear we are losing more Regular players on a weekly basis. Some players are simply disappearing without a word of explanation. The alarming thing is it's all happening at once. All this inactivity, players leaving & disappearing is happening on a mass scale in a very short time frame.
It's quite shocking to come on daily and find between Zero and Five players in game. No posts on the forum for days. It can't be due to lack of updates. We've put out Two massive updates in the past Two months. Certain servers are putting out pea sized updates and passing them off as massive.
It can't be due to drama considering nobody ever argues here, we just spread the love.
Seriously, I would like to know what went wrong here. :/
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I would like to know the same thing myself, I have noticed people's activity has dropped drastically, Honestly I myself dropped my Activity, But I am picking it up right now, For the passed several days, I haven't seen very many people come in. RoboCop here and there, Myself, A new guy named MegaZ. Jeason returning to us, But playing a short amount of time, Even Deadpros still would come in since I've been picking up my activity, And due to him going on his little trip out here to California, He would be considered to going inactive, In which am sure he's already explained to numerous people, So I agree with this post because we as the community are disappearing. We do need to get back on track, I thought FnF actually done us some good considering on some weeks we would have a good amount, But on any other day such as today we are low, So again I too would love to know where everyone is.
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School is one thing that is having everyone be inactive. and I have been busy helping my grandfather. People are also doing vacations and so much more, The only thing we could hope for is that they will all come back. But with school starting I am not sure.
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I agree BH is no longer what it was due to lack of active members, i dunno if people got bored of ECNR, or just have been inactive. In ma case it is ma internet, but i'll soon raise my activity.
Anyway i recomend going in the FGRPG program and focus on it. EGCM, in my opinion sucks, because it is just like single player survival but with more guys. That is why there is no one in EGCM. We need a server spawn, which would lead to the survival world, some minigames, and stuff; i wouldnt mind helping on that
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We have spawn on egcm...but yeah we dont have minigames etc..
And i think everyone is inactive because they dont see people ig and they dont come ig because of that.If we all were ig i bet someone will come.
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Ups and downs, man, ups and downs. It's never all ups, not always! Be cool about it, we've gotten through worse. Every server faces these silent days. ;)
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Take into account this definitely the largest holiday period throughout the world. And ive onticed for a fact when i started here, it wasn't holiday season it was thriving. As soon as it gets to my holidays, everybody seems to dissapear aswell so im quite sure everybody will be back into full flow, at the very worst and latest, in September.
All is not lost!
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I was able to mix it up today between MegaZ and Lunar. As long as we've got a few crims in there, I see action. But still, where's all the off-school kids with San Andreas? :P
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Certain servers are putting out pea sized updates and passing them off as massive.
Hahah. Great words :D
Yea, I know it's not the updates being the issue, because if that was then you know what I mean. The issue may be with the replay value? I mean, a game can only be played so long until it gets boring. I myself am bored with SA-MP, to be honest, and that may just be the case with a lot of other people.
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Certain servers are putting out pea sized updates and passing them off as massive.
Hahah. Great words :D
Yea, I know it's not the updates being the issue, because if that was then you know what I mean. The issue may be with the replay value? I mean, a game can only be played so long until it gets boring. I myself am bored with SA-MP, to be honest, and that may just be the case with a lot of other people.
Hate you.
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Ive Been playing World of Warcraft all summer, because i only get it in the summer. I will return to being fully active on the 29th.
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sup.
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Went on vacation, came back.
lol
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I know it's out of my place talking here considering I've only been here for like a broken amount of time. But I feel like throwing my 5 cents about it.
Did it ever occur to anyone that most people just got bored of the gamemode? We've been running the same concept of CnR since the community started. (+ let's not forget back in the CRRPG days which I hope no one stones me for mentioning it). My honest-to-god opinion why I (and probably most) people left. No one (or Few) enjoys Cops and Robbers' servers anymore. We've been running CnR waaay back since Byrner owns CRRPG (Most of EGC's playerbase came from CRRPG, c'mon people). I mean sure, it was fun back then because you'd go 'omg, this is soo unique and amazing'. But now, it doesn't impress anyone.
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Okay this is why i've been inactive: I've been turning my computer on and watched on SAMP got boored by looking at it, then suddenly my internet is 0.16 mb / s at the highest it comes atm due to problems which hopefully will be today. Also i've been with my GF, preparing which day school start. As soon my "real" internet goes up i'am back into teh game :>
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I know it's out of my place talking here considering I've only been here for like a broken amount of time. But I feel like throwing my 5 cents about it.
Did it ever occur to anyone that most people just got bored of the gamemode? We've been running the same concept of CnR since the community started. (+ let's not forget back in the CRRPG days which I hope no one stones me for mentioning it). My honest-to-god opinion why I (and probably most) people left. No one (or Few) enjoys Cops and Robbers' servers anymore. We've been running CnR waaay back since Byrner owns CRRPG (Most of EGC's playerbase came from CRRPG, c'mon people). I mean sure, it was fun back then because you'd go 'omg, this is soo unique and amazing'. But now, it doesn't impress anyone.
I have seen a lot of people still getting fun even by all the time passed.
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I know it's out of my place talking here considering I've only been here for like a broken amount of time. But I feel like throwing my 5 cents about it.
Did it ever occur to anyone that most people just got bored of the gamemode? We've been running the same concept of CnR since the community started. (+ let's not forget back in the CRRPG days which I hope no one stones me for mentioning it). My honest-to-god opinion why I (and probably most) people left. No one (or Few) enjoys Cops and Robbers' servers anymore. We've been running CnR waaay back since Byrner owns CRRPG (Most of EGC's playerbase came from CRRPG, c'mon people). I mean sure, it was fun back then because you'd go 'omg, this is soo unique and amazing'. But now, it doesn't impress anyone.
I have seen a lot of people still getting fun even by all the time passed.
Sure, probably time to time, players would come by and play for sake.
But that isn't a consistent player-count. Say max, we have an entire 20 members in a community. -5 for those who "barely" plays. I'm talking about those who just opens their mIRC 24/7 and chat on the IRC server or hanging on the forums. -5 for those who just here once in a while. (Doesn't really play in a consistent basis). In that 10 members, 5 are probably new players who would only play once and forget all about the server (including our usual DMers and Hackers). Then we'd divide it by 2. Giving us 2-3 players on a regular basis.
(http://i.imgur.com/yaWxfuc.jpg)
All that aside, I'm not hating on anyone. I love the server, the script, the community and Byrner (also known as Enigma, Irish, etc). But like what Karagon/Voltage said
The issue may be with the replay value? I mean, a game can only be played so long until it gets boring. I myself am bored with SA-MP, to be honest, and that may just be the case with a lot of other people.
It's the replay value and let's be honest, a usual routine of robbing,raping,kidnapping or arresting..... It's not going to last very long.
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I will admit i love the server, but sometimes it gets boring :o
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It's the replay value and let's be honest, a usual routine of robbing,raping,kidnapping or arresting..... It's not going to last very long.
it did for alot of us though
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I belive that most of you dont know me but im new to the server and I met byrner , aaron , robocop , luna , that_guy , viper and many more and played with them , but 99% of my time is alone on the server , by robbing and blowing stuff up , why? Because NO ONE JOINS THE GAME IF NO ONE IS IN IT , and I myself joined when I saw the server first time on the sa-mp list and saw like 5-6 players and I like servers with not alot of player , just a few 5 to 30 to maintain the lag , while I was getting score alone , i got over 500 score in 3 days , why? Because no one joins the game if it is empty , If I join the game , onther players who check the server will see that im online and join me , just like Luna , we never meet but when I spend time and teamed up we were 2 players and after that aaron joined to blow us then Curiosity then Robocop and wasaki , so my point is IF you can join the game , do it and everyone else will because they are not alone on the server , because its pretty fuckin' boring to talk to a fukin' Egg mate.
P.S. Excuse my bloody language mate.
P.P.S. IM NOT BRITISH FOR FUCK SAKE!
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The problem is getting people in the game, not keeping them. Keeping them has never been an issue for the script/server.
The people that would get in the game and play aren't here any more, so it's working with a new player base (Ergo MegaZ).
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The problem is getting people in the game, not keeping them. Keeping them has never been an issue for the script/server.
The people that would get in the game and play aren't here any more, so it's working with a new player base (Ergo MegaZ).
Yea but today , I joined the game and 5 more people joined after i got in , new players and when i left , one by one they got out , and that was just a test , I say if that we get atleast 3 european time players that are experienced and atleast 1 is an admin to keep clear from players that avoid the rules and maybe be a hacker.Then we need 3 onthers that are american time zone , which should be easy , robocop , aaron and 1 more.
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The problem is getting people in the game, not keeping them. Keeping them has never been an issue for the script/server.
The people that would get in the game and play aren't here any more, so it's working with a new player base (Ergo MegaZ).
Yea but today , I joined the game and 5 more people joined after i got in , new players and when i left , one by one they got out , and that was just a test , I say if that we get atleast 3 european time players that are experienced and atleast 1 is an admin to keep clear from players that avoid the rules and maybe be a hacker.Then we need 3 onthers that are american time zone , which should be easy , robocop , aaron and 1 more.
Imo, I don't need to be in any special timezone, I still have summer break but my internet is being weird till tomorrow or thursday, So i can be on whenever when it's fixed.
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Players like MegaZ are exactly what is needed. Players that don't just look at the player count and say "Nobodys in game, I'm not going in" Guess what, everyone is doing the same! MegaZ and a few others are thinking correctly; "Nobodys in game, maybe if I join more will join". One player = two players. Two players = Four players. So on and so on.
We can get this community back, it's not that far gone yet. We've had a rough couple of weeks, I believe it's going to get better though.
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Players like MegaZ are exactly what is needed. Players that don't just look at the player count and say "Nobodys in game, I'm not going in" Guess what, everyone is doing the same! MegaZ and a few others are thinking correctly; "Nobodys in game, maybe if I join more will join". One player = two players. Two players = Four players. So on and so on.
We can get this community back, it's not that far gone yet. We've had a rough couple of weeks, I believe it's going to get better though.
Yesterday i played with 2 guys who "no english" we didnt understood each onther and I told them "no ram" then rammed him once and said "no no no" and he said "ok" , myself have to teach players what to do , if he would have been english I would told him to read rules , pc and dm , but I was in same situation as him when i was younger but someone teached me english , and no it was not school , when I went to school at english class , everything i saw there i learned from a guy online on a CnR server.Just saying that most of the new players run to me and start shooting me and when I get admin to freeze them they say "stop" then leave.
OK I got over the point but we dont get american players or british or any players because they dont reach the server , we only get european players who speak english who are VERY LOW at number and 1 or 2 that speak english and they are either romanians like me and start insulting me or some onther nationality.
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I will try to be more active soon, my internet is really bad during the summer due to lots of people online and I can really only get on really late or early in the morning.
I still like ECNR and hope nothing happens to it :'( I've just actually been incapable of joining much.
I'll admit however, sometimes I don't join cause nobody else is on. I shouldn't do that :(
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I belive that most of you dont know me but im new to the server and I met byrner , aaron , robocop , luna , that_guy , viper and many more and played with them , but 99% of my time is alone on the server , by robbing and blowing stuff up , why? Because NO ONE JOINS THE GAME IF NO ONE IS IN IT , and I myself joined when I saw the server first time on the sa-mp list and saw like 5-6 players and I like servers with not alot of player , just a few 5 to 30 to maintain the lag , while I was getting score alone , i got over 500 score in 3 days , why? Because no one joins the game if it is empty , If I join the game , onther players who check the server will see that im online and join me , just like Luna , we never meet but when I spend time and teamed up we were 2 players and after that aaron joined to blow us then Curiosity then Robocop and wasaki , so my point is IF you can join the game , do it and everyone else will because they are not alone on the server , because its pretty fuckin' boring to talk to a fukin' Egg mate.
P.S. Excuse my bloody language mate.
P.P.S. IM NOT BRITISH FOR FUCK SAKE!
Oh boy, i remember myself in the same situation xD. Was the only one + suicide back when it all started, we've been blowing the shit up all day + robbing. Taki one day said "When no one is ingame, no ony will join(fact) it's been pretty boring since you've got the same stuff to do, same robbery places etc. but yeah, some people never get bored by some stuff. (like me and my cs 1.6 addiction :S)
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What's up gangstas
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What's up gangstas
Another lost soldier! We need you & The Ark back kicking criminal ass.
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This is the reason I have been gone for so long. I do want to come back though.
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What's up gangstas
Another lost soldier! We need you & The Ark back kicking criminal ass.
Eh, I dunno, SAMP has fallen out of my game rotation recently. Right now the same old catching of chewby criminals doesn't do it for me.
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Yea server is good but it is quite routine,we need something new in the server then it can be more exciting.
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Funny you should mention that lads.... ;)
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WOOW WOOW something new? 1.5 Was a whole different level! Like seriously man, We don't need something new since after 5 hours of gameplay in that new stuff it'll become as a routine aswell, and they can't script constantly 24/7. We need ADVERTISEMENT!
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WOOW WOOW something new? 1.5 Was a whole different level! Like seriously man, We don't need something new since after 5 hours of gameplay in that new stuff it'll become as a routine aswell, and they can't script constantly 24/7. We need ADVERTISEMENT!
we still need something new and after 5 hours gameplay in that new stuff we need something new again and again and again....
untill server people don't get bored.
Well that's my idea.
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WOOW WOOW something new? 1.5 Was a whole different level! Like seriously man, We don't need something new since after 5 hours of gameplay in that new stuff it'll become as a routine aswell, and they can't script constantly 24/7. We need ADVERTISEMENT!
we still need something new and after 5 hours gameplay in that new stuff we need something new again and again and again....
untill server people don't get bored.
Well that's my idea.
As i said before they can't script constantly 24/7. True shit they can't script whole day, they'll get tired man. And you can't really ask for new stuff every 5 hours of gameplay!
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WOOW WOOW something new? 1.5 Was a whole different level! Like seriously man, We don't need something new since after 5 hours of gameplay in that new stuff it'll become as a routine aswell, and they can't script constantly 24/7. We need ADVERTISEMENT!
we still need something new and after 5 hours gameplay in that new stuff we need something new again and again and again....
untill server people don't get bored.
Well that's my idea.
As i said before they can't script constantly 24/7. True shit they can't script whole day, they'll get tired man. And you can't really ask for new stuff every 5 hours of gameplay!
yea i understand that and i didn't ask for new stuff i just said we NEED new stuff.Just telling my idea,do not wanting it.
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Oh well
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Shit's simple. The flame is burning out for those of us who have been going on for years on end and there's nobody to really pass the torch to. The old dudes come back in spurts sometimes but what we need is a solid community of new dewps that holds it all up. It has to be built on the people, not the gameplay. That's how shit was ran back in the golden days. We would all get tired of the game itself if it were just bare. The diversity is brought by the people who play it.
Neewayz, dropping wisdom is all empty if I ain't playing myself. Respect to B for sticking it out this long, no idea how that's possible. Mad dedication.
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I can still make some videos, to advertise.
As my old ones ;D
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Thanks for the shout out GeeZer, always nice having you dropping knowledge bombs.
Yeah Avail I think that's pretty much essential at this point. Videos that showcase the closeness of the community. The unique features. Basically what attracts you to the server.
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Yeah, essentially what this place needs is:
-New Gameplay Assets: Byrner and the script team already have this covered. While also taking care of a lot of other things that divide their attention.
-More Core Players: Back in the old days, we had a lot of regulars that became more than just partners and opponents, but friends. Sean_Mack, Sas_Squatch, GeeZee, Joker, Weezy, ReCoN. People with personality and flare.
-Strong Org vs Org Activity: The server was full at OCRRPG when the Task Force and the Black Hand threw down. Lots on both sides and people in between to make things interesting. The BH is limping, limping hard and the BCSD is still up but has staffing gaps.
-More Communication: IRC lights up with activity but these forums are pretty much bare. While there may not be new things to go over, updates could still be pushed. The forum reports especially need attention. There are going to be gaps where an IRC report might fall through. We should empathize the utility that the forum serves with that.
-Staffing: Linking in with my earlier point. It seems that there are times where there's only one admin throughout the day. I carry on a full time job, keep IRC up and try to put out all the fires I'm made aware of. There's got to be some potential admin talent with our core.
-Nutrition: All these kids, they're looking pale and scrawny with all the artificial shit they're eating and drinking. Eggucate them about the greatness of EGGS. :P
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Yeah, essentially what this place needs is:
-New Gameplay Assets: Byrner and the script team already have this covered. While also taking care of a lot of other things that divide their attention.
-More Core Players: Back in the old days, we had a lot of regulars that became more than just partners and opponents, but friends. Sean_Mack, Sas_Squatch, GeeZee, Joker, Weezy, ReCoN. People with personality and flare.
-Strong Org vs Org Activity: The server was full at OCRRPG when the Task Force and the Black Hand threw down. Lots on both sides and people in between to make things interesting. The BH is limping, limping hard and the BCSD is still up but has staffing gaps.
-More Communication: IRC lights up with activity but these forums are pretty much bare. While there may not be new things to go over, updates could still be pushed. The forum reports especially need attention. There are going to be gaps where an IRC report might fall through. We should empathize the utility that the forum serves with that.
-Staffing: Linking in with my earlier point. It seems that there are times where there's only one admin throughout the day. I carry on a full time job, keep IRC up and try to put out all the fires I'm made aware of. There's got to be some potential admin talent with our core.
-Nutrition: All these kids, they're looking pale and scrawny with all the artificial shit they're eating and drinking. Eggucate them about the greatness of EGGS. :P
I agree 110% with all this, We have a lot of lose ends that need to be tightened. Activity from both BH an BCSD members, Don't get me wrong some do end up showing up every once in a blue moon, But as it stands now is BCSD is active with someone thats there to lead them, On the other hand, Some BH members still come on little by little without a leader, This has been going on for quite some time. Varun went inactive with explanation and Hiredgun went inactive without a reason "That I know of" I am not trying to dictate why he's inactive because I generally don't have a clue, Aside both of them going inactive with BH, They are both admins in which they're inactive with that as well, So there is a gap in the admin team, A big one I might add, I hardly see any admins now a days online, I am only seeing RoboCop, Deadpros, WatakiWatako and Sylar which who comes in less often than I see the ones that do still come online, And that too I won't judge cause I don't know whats going on with him, Though the most I would see him in IRC is for like 15 to 20 minutes and then he's gone again, Some say he's here for scripting purposes mainly, So that must be why. Again I don't know, But what I do know is that we need more admins. To be as active as I was, I am not hinting at me getting it back although I am patiently waiting. But someone that does show dedication and commitment as all of us passed and present admins have towards the server, But really almost everyone "I" Have seen that I think should have been the next admin has either went inactive or left completely without a sign of return. But we do need new ones.
Regs too, Regs are just as inactive. I hardly see any regs join anymore aside myself as of late. But really All I know is that we need a boost in activity. And I think we can do it if we put in the effort.
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Me and Curiosity are actually planning to revive the Black hand, as Hiredgun have went inactive.
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I think quite a few people have hit the nail on the head here.
But one thing I think we can all do is just to idle in the server, if you're on the IRC then what harm is it to be in the server? If people see more people in the server then they are more likely to join and you never know, you might see someone you like join and bam! you're already in game!
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The server is boring.
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The server is boring.
That's obvious from coming in at such a low point. Have some faith!
Me and Curiosity are actually planning to revive the Black hand, as Hiredgun have went inactive.
And I have your respective accesses for the forums and game set up for that now. We may be on opposing org lines but we pretty much have the same overall objective: To get ECNR back into action. You have a willing partner in me for that. Please reach out to me if you want to plan events, give feedback (positive or negative) or if you need any advice.
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Me and Curiosity are actually planning to revive the Black hand, as Hiredgun have went inactive.
And I have your respective accesses for the forums and game set up for that now. We may be on opposing org lines but we pretty much have the same overall objective: To get ECNR back into action. You have a willing partner in me for that. Please reach out to me if you want to plan events, give feedback (positive or negative) or if you need any advice.
I'm of course with the events idea and getting ECNR back active. Just that we are building up from the start and there's a role call running on the Black Hand. We'll do it when we are ready!
And thanks for the accesses. I'll have to mention that me and Curiosity didn't get the access for the forums. We just got the title BH bosses, we can't edit/remove/sticky etc.. and do this stuff.
I hope you fix that. Thanks in advance!
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My studies have started. :-\ I'll be active when I can, but rest assured I will be coming back on Christmas Vacations. :D
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Shit's simple. The flame is burning out for those of us who have been going on for years on end and there's nobody to really pass the torch to. The old dudes come back in spurts sometimes but what we need is a solid community of new dewps that holds it all up. It has to be built on the people, not the gameplay. That's how shit was ran back in the golden days. We would all get tired of the game itself if it were just bare. The diversity is brought by the people who play it.
Problem and solution in a nutshell.
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This is not the members of the team, but the players because they are picky and do not know what they want, no problem;)
Tom (IRC)